Afghan President Hamid Karzai told a meeting of elders in Kabul on Thursday that he did not trust the US, and it did not trust him. "My trust with America is not good. I don't trust them and they don't trust me," Reuters quoted the president as saying. "During the past 10 years I have fought with them and they have made propaganda against me," he said. The elders gathered in the capital to debate a security deal with the US. If the security pact with the US is passed, up to 15,000 foreign troops could stay in Afghanistan beyond 2014, Karzai said.